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Solecist Project
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Posted - 2014.10.13 11:38:00 -
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You alone? You can't.
Why do you ask? I am Sol. I cook my bacon naked. New capsuleer in need of money? You hope there is more you can do than mining or being a slave to an agent? THERE IS! Send me a mail! |

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Posted - 2014.10.13 11:51:00 -
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Kazekage Dono wrote:Solecist Project wrote:You alone? You can't.
Why do you ask? Well cause it's not very balanced that 1 pilot can well ... be unaffected by 1 other pilot or 2 probably allot more as well. The smartbombs or gatecamping isn't the issue. It's that warp core stabs don't affect smartbombs in any way really. All you need is friends with enough points of warpstrength.
Warpcore stabs are already seriously gimping a ship making it useless for anything else but smartbombs ... and smartbombs themselves are seriously underpowered, because the only ships they're really viable on to use are battleships.
And that makes them horribly inefficient, unless you fit officer type smartbombs ... ... which are so costly that they're not worth it. I am Sol. I cook my bacon naked. New capsuleer in need of money? You hope there is more you can do than mining or being a slave to an agent? THERE IS! Send me a mail! |

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Posted - 2014.10.13 21:47:00 -
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Agondray wrote:Solecist Project wrote:You alone? You can't.
Why do you ask? i have no fn clue to why you are blue to me solecist. anyways OP best to stay away from smart bombs fleets, and no they dont all fit warp stabs. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2U0dTlU-QUgThis video is of amarr and gallente FW fleet taking out a titan and escort smartbomb fleet followed by the fleets reinforcements. oddly enough the FW that got the kills are called noobs yet they are the ones that took down a titan and more before the enemy fleet got a reinforcement fleet I am? Is this the standings bug of the forum ... ... or do I have a fan in your alliance? *snickers xD* I am Sol. I cook my bacon naked. New capsuleer in need of money? You hope there is more you can do than mining or being a slave to an agent? THERE IS! Send me a mail! |

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Posted - 2014.10.14 10:05:00 -
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Mag's wrote:So you've never done it, yet can claim to know it's skill level and requirements?
Also, what do morals have to do with anything?
But please do tell us more of other things you know nothing about and their moral impact. It sounds fascinating. His portrait is perfectly fitting for his stupid attitude. I am Sol. I cook my bacon naked. New capsuleer in need of money? You hope there is more you can do than mining or being a slave to an agent? THERE IS! Send me a mail! |

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Posted - 2014.10.14 10:08:00 -
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Decian Cor wrote:Solecist Project wrote:
and smartbombs themselves are seriously underpowered, because the only ships they're really viable on to use are battleships.
And that makes them horribly inefficient, unless you fit officer type smartbombs ...
Can confirm, smartbombs on battleships are horribly inefficient.  EDIT: broken link. fixed. Yes, they are. And links to killboards aren't allowed in GD.
I am sure you've invested many, many hours in research into smartbombs and how to put them to proper use ... like I did.
t1, named and t2 Smartbombs are horribly inefficient, because the only ship they really have a use for is on battleships ... ... and on these they are ridiculously underpowered for the price of the hull one has to use. I am Sol. I cook my bacon naked. New capsuleer in need of money? You hope there is more you can do than mining or being a slave to an agent? THERE IS! Send me a mail! |

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Posted - 2014.10.14 14:14:00 -
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Backyard Pooper wrote:Solecist Project wrote: t1, named and t2 Smartbombs are horribly inefficient, because the only ship they really have a use for is on battleships ....
Confirming smartbombs on cruisers are horribly inefficient! Hi Jennifer en Marland.
Your link proves my point and your ignorance and cluelessness.
You are free to mention the fitting you need to instapop pods and a shuttle on a cruiser, which proves that they are underpowered.
A destroyer even with a full set of t2 small smartbombs can't even do it.
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Posted - 2014.10.14 15:39:00 -
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Yes I do well remember your main.
Thank you for pointing out the issue and sorry for not looking it up on the killboard myself. on mobile it's a horror.
It needs two or three LARGE smartbombs, which makes for a horrible fitting on a cruiser.
At best one gets 1k alpha out of a horribly overpriced cruiser.
It needs two volleys on destroyers to kill a pod.
You take your kills and ignore that what you need to achieve this is way out of relation to what it actually achieves, compared to the fitting.
We did disco runs, three people in cruisers. The conclusion was that everything below a battleship is completely pointless to use, because of lack of range and alpha.
That's unreasonable for the cost involved.
Using cruisers is unreasonable, because of the low range and the comparatively high fitting costs to get aa subpar alpha from it.
Destroyers are being the closest to actual sense, although not even a full set of t2 smartbombs can pop a pod.
And yes... it should be doable at least with t2.
Smartbombs are the red headed stepchild of all weapon systems and are completely broken either because there is no dedicated ship for them which gives proper bonuses, or because they themselves lack range or alpha.
Alternatively, making AWU affect powergrid needs would actually be very helpfull already.
It might make them reasonable to use on cruisers. I am Sol. I cook my bacon naked. New capsuleer in need of money? You hope there is more you can do than mining or being a slave to an agent? THERE IS! Send me a mail! |

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Posted - 2014.10.14 19:18:00 -
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Scipio Artelius wrote:Poor use of killboard links aside, Santo Trafficante will continue to use them efficiently, despite what we try to convince ourselves of in this thread. He definitely has skill in his use of them. The general masses don't use a blackops with billion ISK disco...
... and it's not about efficient use, but about the fact that they are inefficient in relation to fitting requirements and their capabilities.
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Posted - 2014.10.14 19:28:00 -
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@ Backyard pooper (mobile here again, quotes quotes quotes argh)
Low fitting skills. Yes, I was talking about the PG rigs. Now consider the short amount of time one needs to skill even for t2 small ones. It's a weapon system with a low entry barrier!
Skilling Pulse weapons to V is pointless except for t2 large bombs most don't use ... ... and for a 6.5sec RoF with heat.
Smartbombs, when we take skilling time, are a weapons system with a low entry barrier. That makes it a great thing for new players who want to dive all-in!
It makes no sense that a set of t2 can't insta a pod. Instead one has to tank a coercer to tank the sentries long enough for a second blast ... which gets the job done, btw. That, though, doesn't scale well with their low entry requirements!
Cruisers for ganking... disregarding the targets, are really bad. One needs to tank them too, so one gets off enough volleys for it to matter.
And here again in relation ... using a battleship allows to fit enough tank for lots of volleys, but the damage doesn't really scale with it. Consider the cost! That's why I believe that Smartbombs simply are unbalanced.
There is no proper scale among the module sizes, nor in regards to shipsizes.
I haven't looked at the new RCUs... good call! I am Sol. I cook my bacon naked. New capsuleer in need of money? You hope there is more you can do than mining or being a slave to an agent? THERE IS! Send me a mail! |

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Posted - 2014.10.15 10:47:00 -
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Santo Trafficante wrote:you guys dont understand.... How about you speak a word about this.
One would assume ... I do ... you have a few things to say.
And Hi! Long time no see! Didn't know you switched to t3.
Ewww ... ^_^ I am Sol. I cook my bacon naked. New capsuleer in need of money? You hope there is more you can do than mining or being a slave to an agent? THERE IS! Send me a mail! |
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